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Re: Que tija telescopica de sillín tenéis en vuestra Haibike sduro fullnine 6.0
« Respuesta #30 en: 18 de Marzo, 2017, 12:15:28 pm »
Actualización


Anoto:
---La Magura Vyron ( es a pilas , sin cableado ( la vi de 320  a 400 euros on line)
---La Rockshox Reverb de 125 mm de recorrido (  hace falta agrandar  plasticos)( mas o  menos 200 Alltricks)
---La KS KIND SHOCK LEV INTEGRA 125 mm (de 273  a 400 euros ) (Alguna haibike la trae  de serie)


He  de mirar:
 las kind Shock creo que también tienen algún modelo barato.
Rock shock también tiene algún modelo.
Me suena también haber visto algo de Crank Brothers.
Magura también tiene algún modelo como ya te han dicho.
Tambien creo recordar haber visto algo de cráneo creen.

Otra cosa es que sirvan para tu bici tanto por guiado de cable como por medida hay algunas Haibike que no traen el tubo completamente libre y si las tijas son largas no llegan a bajar del todo.
Potencia telescópica 3FStech AIMl (es otro  producto que encontré casualmente y  veo  interesante, pesa unos 400gr; precio 275 euros aprox)

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Re: Que tija telescopica de sillín tenéis en vuestra Haibike sduro fullnine 6.0
« Respuesta #31 en: 18 de Marzo, 2017, 06:41:51 pm »
Las Giant están bien de precio y tienen buenos comentarios...

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Re: Que tija telescopica de sillín tenéis en vuestra Haibike sduro fullnine 6.0
« Respuesta #32 en: 18 de Marzo, 2017, 06:43:17 pm »
Actualización


Anoto:
---La Magura Vyron ( es a pilas , sin cableado ( la vi de 320  a 400 euros on line)
---La Rockshox Reverb de 125 mm de recorrido (  hace falta agrandar  plasticos)( mas o  menos 200 Alltricks)
---La KS KIND SHOCK LEV INTEGRA 125 mm (de 273  a 400 euros ) (Alguna haibike la trae  de serie)


He  de mirar:
 las kind Shock creo que también tienen algún modelo barato.
Rock shock también tiene algún modelo.
Me suena también haber visto algo de Crank Brothers.
Magura también tiene algún modelo como ya te han dicho.
Tambien creo recordar haber visto algo de cráneo creen.

Otra cosa es que sirvan para tu bici tanto por guiado de cable como por medida hay algunas Haibike que no traen el tubo completamente libre y si las tijas son largas no llegan a bajar del todo.
Potencia telescópica 3FStech AIMl (es otro  producto que encontré casualmente y  veo  interesante, pesa unos 400gr; precio 275 euros aprox)

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Re: Que tija telescopica de sillín tenéis en vuestra Haibike sduro fullnine 6.0
« Respuesta #33 en: 18 de Marzo, 2017, 06:46:30 pm »
Leo  y  no  me entero:
¿ que es el OFFSET de una tija telescopica

Ruego  esplicacion entendible por  un ``guelo´´ de 80 años y  un neno  de ``8´´; ya  que  yo  de bicis y  tecnologia.... ni  papa!!!

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Re: Que tija telescopica de sillín tenéis en vuestra Haibike sduro fullnine 6.0
« Respuesta #34 en: 19 de Marzo, 2017, 08:45:36 pm »
Leo  y  no  me entero:
¿ que es el OFFSET de una tija telescopica

Ruego  esplicacion entendible por  un ``guelo´´ de 80 años y  un neno  de ``8´´; ya  que  yo  de bicis y  tecnologia.... ni  papa!!!

Yo tampoco lo se...esta bien esa pregunta???
De donde eres?, por cierto...gallego? lo de neno...me suena a mi epoca de vacaciones en Vigo...
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Re: Que tija telescopica de sillín tenéis en vuestra Haibike sduro fullnine 6.0
« Respuesta #35 en: 19 de Marzo, 2017, 09:00:41 pm »
Leo  y  no  me entero:
¿ que es el OFFSET de una tija telescopica

Ruego  esplicacion entendible por  un ``guelo´´ de 80 años y  un neno  de ``8´´; ya  que  yo  de bicis y  tecnologia.... ni  papa!!!

Supongo que se referirán al retrasso pero vamos tampoco lo se a tiro fijo.
Si la vida te da la espalda ¡ Tocale el culo !.

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Re: Que tija telescopica de sillín tenéis en vuestra Haibike sduro fullnine 6.0
« Respuesta #36 en: 20 de Marzo, 2017, 08:26:37 am »
Asturiano

En varias tiendas on-line  entre las características aparece el offset de marras (entre  0- 25) como  característica de la tija

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Re: Que tija telescopica de sillín tenéis en vuestra Haibike sduro fullnine 6.0
« Respuesta #37 en: 20 de Marzo, 2017, 07:46:14 pm »
 Deduzco por  lo  traducido de  un post de  Internet que`` el Offset´´  es lo  que avanza o  retrocede el sillín al cambiar   a la tija en cuestión ;( si me equivoco corrijanme por favor)


 Creo  que  si marcamos en el sillín la posición  a la que lo  ajustamos para nosotros y  la tija nueva tiene un offset de -25; al poner el sillín en las mismas marcas estaremos 25 mm retrasados y  si  es +25 estará  25  mm adelantado

Quedo  a expensas de que  me confirméis que  es cierta  mi  deducción.


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Re: Que tija telescopica de sillín tenéis en vuestra Haibike sduro fullnine 6.0
« Respuesta #38 en: 21 de Marzo, 2017, 08:52:36 pm »
Enredando  he encontrado  esto, aqui :
http://www.vitalmtb.com/features/Vital-MTB-How-To-Choose-a-Dropper-Seat-Post,1496
A ver si  le saco  utilidad, de momento  me lo  guardo  aqui.

KS Lev CiThe KS Lev series has long been held in high regard, now it is the first to go carbon mast for a serious weight saving.
  • Minimum Travel: 65mm
  • Maximum Travel: 175mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 450g
  • Remote Options: Left/Right (Southpaw for under)
  • Price: $470
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @150mm travel: 450mm
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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RockShox Reverb Stealth B1Standard OEM spec on most trail/AM/enduro bikes today, a proven performer that just got a major overhaul. One of the first to offer a 170mm travel option.
  • Minimum Travel: 100mm
  • Maximum Travel: 170mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 560g
  • Remote Options: Over/Under/Left/Right
  • Price: $400
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @150mm travel: 440mm
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6/34.9
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FOX Transfer FactoryFOX took a long time to replace their DOSS post, one of the most reliable in the world (but heavy and featuring a nasty remote). The Transfer looks to continue the reliability tradition in a much more up-to-date post.
  • Minimum Travel: 100mm
  • Maximum Travel: 150mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 517g
  • Remote Options: Over/Under/Left/Right
  • Price: $379
  • Routing Options: Internal/External
  • Length @150mm travel: 457mm
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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Race Face TurbineRace Face licensed the internals from 9Point8, a small Canadian company. The first generation can be finicky to set up and has had some reliability issues, but when it works, it's very good. We're about to test the revised version to find out more. (Also sold as the Easton Haven).
  • Minimum Travel: 100mm
  • Maximum Travel: 150mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 495g
  • Remote Options: Left/Right (optional shifter style for under)
  • Price: $470
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @150mm travel: 440mm
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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9Point8 Fall LineOffering great reliability and cold weather performance, 9point8 flew under the radar for a while, but their posts have a loyal following. One of the first to go beyond 150mm travel. The Fall Line technology is licensed to Race Face and Easton for their Turbine and Haven dropper posts, respectively.
  • Minimum Travel: 75mm
  • Maximum Travel: 175mm (soon 200!)
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 596g
  • Remote Options: Left/Right (optional shifter style for under)
  • Price: $429
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @150mm travel: 440mm
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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Giant Contact SL SwitchRecently updated, the Contact SL Switch offers good performance at a great price - and it allows you to easily switch between internal and external routing on the same post. It exists only in the 30.9mm diameter, but you should be able to shim it for larger seat tube.
  • Minimum Travel: 100mm
  • Maximum Travel: 150mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 600g
  • Remote Options: Left/Right
  • Price: $300
  • Routing Options: Internal/External
  • Length @150mm travel: 440mm
  • Diameter Options: 30.9
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Bontrager Drop LineAnother recent entry, Bontrager's Drop Line is only made in Trek's standard 31.6mm seat tube diameter. If this suits you, you're in luck, since it offers good specs and performance at a great price.
  • Minimum Travel: 100mm
  • Maximum Travel: 150mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 624g
  • Remote Options: Shifter only, optional on-bar
  • Price: $299
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @150mm travel: 445mm
  • Diameter Options: 31.6
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e*thirteen TRS+ Droppere*thirteen took their time entering the dropper post market, and they have come up with something a bit different. With a mechanical spring and locking mechanism, they are aiming for max reliability (at an awesome price too!). We are currently testing it to see how it performs in the real world.
  • Minimum Travel: 150mm
  • Maximum Travel: 150mm
  • Infinite Travel: No
  • Weight: 590g
  • Remote Options: Shifter style, over/under
  • Price: $279
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @150mm travel: TBD
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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Thomson CovertThomson was always the gold standard in regular seat posts, so it's no wonder they took their sweet time coming up with a dropper worthy of their name. With nothing but top-quality components and a sturdy construction, Thomson went all in at the reliability table. We're testing one to see if they succeeded.
  • Minimum Travel: 100mm
  • Maximum Travel: 150mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 592g
  • Remote Options: Left/Right
  • Price: $480
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @150mm travel: 440mm
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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DVO GarnetDVO only just released the Garnet now. They've aimed for top-notch reliability, with a mechanical spring assisting the main air spring and to provide backup in case of failure. We'll put some miles on this one to see what that translates to.
  • Minimum Travel: 125mm
  • Maximum Travel: 150mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 620g
  • Remote Options: Left/Right
  • Price: $450
  • Routing Options: Internal/External
  • Length @150mm travel: TBD
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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BikeYoke ReviveBikeYoke are known for coming up with clever solutions, so chances are their dropper will work well too. We'll find out when it hits the market in early 2017.
  • Minimum Travel: 125mm
  • Maximum Travel: 160mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 470g
  • Remote Options: 2 remotes, one small, one shifter style
  • Price: $330
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @150mm travel: 439mm
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6/34.9
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X-Fusion Hilo StrateX-Fusion's Hilo Strate comes in at a great price, but slightly on the portly side. The Manic post holds more promise at a price point defying all current competition, but that one currently lacks the travel options to be fully competitive.
  • Minimum Travel: 125mm
  • Maximum Travel: 150mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 530g
  • Remote Options: Over/Under/Left/Right
  • Price: $289
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @150mm travel: 447mm
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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PNW BachelorPNW Components is a small, rider-owned company. The Bachelor is their first 150mm offering, which looks to offer reliability in a lightweight package.
  • Minimum Travel: 150mm
  • Maximum Travel: 150mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 565g
  • Remote Options: Left/Right
  • Price: $380
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @150mm travel: 458mm
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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Magura Vyron eLECTThe first wireless dropper in the world had us quite excited at the prospect of not having to faff around with internal cable routing (the bane of any wrench's life). Sadly, it has failed to live up to performance expectations with notable lag between pressing the button and the post activating. We're hoping the 2nd generation will deliver!
  • Minimum Travel: 150mm
  • Maximum Travel: 150mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 595g
  • Remote Options: Over/Under/Left/Right (wireless)
  • Price: $425
  • Routing Options: Wireless
  • Length @150mm travel: 446mm
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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Gravity DropperThe dropper that can rightfully be credited with launching the whole dropper post craze is fittingly known as the Gravity Dropper. It may seem a little outdated by now, even in the most recent Turbo LP version, but its 100% mechanical construction and ease of maintenance are still winning over new buyers today.
  • Minimum Travel: 50mm
  • Maximum Travel: 125mm
  • Infinite Travel: No
  • Weight: 460g
  • Remote Options: Left/Right
  • Price: $325
  • Routing Options: External
  • Length @125mm travel: 400mm
  • Diameter Options: 26.8 - 34.9 (shims)
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Ritchey Dropper PostRitchey's first entry into the dropper post market features a mechanical, 3-position construction which is said to be highly reliable, but it falls a little short on travel.
  • Minimum Travel: 90mm
  • Maximum Travel: 125mm
  • Infinite Travel: No
  • Weight: 500g
  • Remote Options: Over/Under/Left/Right/iSpec
  • Price: $350
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @125mm travel: TBD
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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Crankbrothers HighlineThe Highline is the post charged with restoring Crankbrothers' reliability reputation after the Joplin failed quite miserably in this regard. We're currently long-term testing one to see how it stacks up.
  • Minimum Travel: 125mm
  • Maximum Travel: 125mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 580g
  • Remote Options: Over/Under/Left/Right
  • Price: $350
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @125mm travel: 400mm
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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Specialized Command Post IRCCSpecialized makes several dropper posts of its own, the Command Post IRCC (short for Internally Routed, Cruise Control) features 10 present drop positions and an offset head.
  • Minimum Travel: 75mm
  • Maximum Travel: 125mm
  • Infinite Travel: No
  • Weight: 586g
  • Remote Options: 2 remotes, one small, one shifter style
  • Price: $350
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @125mm travel: TBD
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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Gravity (FSA) DropperGravity's dropper is competitively priced but comes up short in the travel stakes, and comes in on the heavy side. Gravity is now fully integrated into the FSA brand.
  • Minimum Travel: 100mm
  • Maximum Travel: 125mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 741g
  • Remote Options: Over/Under/Left/Right
  • Price: $286
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @125mm travel: 408mm
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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Nukeproof OKLONukeproof's OKLO is also competitively priced, but heavy and a bit short on travel.
  • Minimum Travel: 125mm
  • Maximum Travel: 125mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 726g
  • Remote Options: Left/Right
  • Price: $230
  • Routing Options: Internal/External
  • Length @125mm travel: 440mm
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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X-Fusion ManicThe Manic looks like one of the potential value winners at a very low MSRP, but we'd need to see more travel options for it to truly contend.
  • Minimum Travel: 125mm
  • Maximum Travel: 125mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 610g
  • Remote Options: Shifter style only
  • Price: $199
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @125mm travel: 421mm
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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PRO Components KoryakPRO (which is owned by Shimano) only joined the dropper post party in 2016, and their first offering is perhaps a little underwhelming with just the one, short-travel option available.
  • Minimum Travel: 120mm
  • Maximum Travel: 120mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: 520g
  • Remote Options: Over/Under/Left/Right
  • Price: TBD
  • Routing Options: Internal
  • Length @125mm travel: TBD
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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KS Lev CircuitAll we know is that if KS can deliver a wireless experience anywhere close to their current wired options, this will be a seriously sweet option. Time will tell as we have yet to see any of these in the wild.
  • Minimum Travel: 100mm
  • Maximum Travel: 150mm
  • Infinite Travel: Yes
  • Weight: TBD
  • Remote Options: Over/Under/Left/Right (wireless)
  • Price: <$600
  • Routing Options: Wireless
  • Length @150mm travel: TBD
  • Diameter Options: 30.9/31.6
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Eightpins Integrated
Eightpins' integrated offering is intriguing, to say the least. It uses the frame seat tube in a new way, which drops weight and allows the company to offer more travel. On the flipside, it requires a custom frame. Liteville is the only frame maker to offer Eightpins integration today, let's see if others follow in 2017.

Minimum Travel: 150mm
Maximum Travel: 220mm
Infinite Travel: Yes
Weight: TBD
Remote Options: Left/Right
Price: OEM
Routing Options: Internal
Length @150mm travel: TBD
Diameter Options: Integrated
 
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Re: Que tija telescopica de sillín tenéis en vuestra Haibike sduro fullnine 6.0
« Respuesta #39 en: 21 de Marzo, 2017, 09:21:38 pm »
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Re: Que tija telescopica de sillín tenéis en vuestra Haibike sduro fullnine 6.0
« Respuesta #40 en: 21 de Marzo, 2017, 11:37:13 pm »
Pues la verdad es que no!!!
 Tengo  la suerte  de que  un colega me ha visitado  y  buscamos  info, encontramos casualmente  esto  y  el que  sabe mas que  yo  hizo un cortaypega; que el dice; y  lo pusimos aquí

La currada es de quien hizo el post  original y  lo  colgó  en el enlace, que  colgamos previo  al cortaypega

Yo  sigo  pez y  no  se si  alguna de estas entrara  en el cuadro  y  dara  la altura  precisa para  mi  en mi  pagada pero  aun no recibida bici

( las letras ya van llegando y  pagándose y  aun no  he visto  ni la caja por  fuera!!!
 Esto  es un sin vivir; es la segunda vez que  pago  algo  y  espero  por  ello; y  es algo  que  no  me gusta  nada.

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Re: Que tija telescopica de sillín tenéis en vuestra Haibike sduro fullnine 6.0
« Respuesta #41 en: 22 de Marzo, 2017, 09:09:30 am »
La Gravity Droper (la mas fea), es la primera que salió al mercado, la primera que compré y la que menos problemas (ninguno) me ha dado de las tres marcas que he tenido y la que mas problemas me ha dado, ha sido la reverb (la mas bonita).

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Re: Que tija telescopica de sillín tenéis en vuestra Haibike sduro fullnine 6.0
« Respuesta #42 en: 22 de Marzo, 2017, 07:22:27 pm »
Buenas, yo tengo una fullnine 6.0, con reverb , la mas pequeña, y lleva el cable oor dentro, a mi no me hadado ningun problrma de nada en cuanto pueda te paso fotos.

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Re: Que tija telescopica de sillín tenéis en vuestra Haibike sduro fullnine 6.0
« Respuesta #43 en: 22 de Marzo, 2017, 09:08:24 pm »
Fernando
Que bien me viene que me hayas respondido!!!; por  tener  la bici  que  en teoría esta al llegarme (tenia que haber  sido  el Jueves pasado  o  mañana, que fue el margen que me dieron) y  usar  el componente que tanto problema me genera decidir
¿Que longitud  tienes desde el eje de pedalier  a la parte  superior  del sillín siguiendo la marcha del tubo portasillin; o  lo  que  es lo  mismo  longitud de entrepierna  multiplicado  por  0,885?
¿que modelo  exacto y longitud de tija es la que le has puesto?

Con esos datos puedo  calcular si yo puedo  usar  esa tija  u  otras similares ;o  si  hay  alguna mas corta o larga que me convenga
 Muchas gracias por  tu  interés, desinteresado.., en contestar.